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My NEW (USED!) Quickie F55s Powerchair - Part 2
 

Start    (looking at the mess! And sorting it all out starts)
Part 2  (On board four stroke petrol power begins!)
Part 3  (The modified smaller lighter footplate design continued)

 

GETS A 4 STROKE HONDA ENGINE! (and a few other bits)

As discussed on the previous page I want better range than a "normal powerchair".  So I wanted a small on board 24v Generator.  So it can charge the batteries when I am outdoors even as I use it.

Well, after a massive search, I am pleased to report you cant buy one!  So I am making a small 22cc 400 to 500 watt one generator for myself.  (I am like that!)

OK the Generator...  So we are going "alternative dual fuel" powerchair!!!

And my new 22cc Honda 4 stroke engine!  A little jewel!  It runs like a sewing machine, makes just 1bhp quietly, and its so light you can hold it on the palm of your hand @ 7lb I think.

About £100 delivered to my door from the USA's "Small Engine Warehouse" and in 8 days too.  No horrid two stroke fumes, no smoke, no oil mixing, and its reliable and long lasting, unlike most two strokes!  There is also an overhead cam version.  Coca-Cola tin is for scale!  The fuel tank will be coming off to lose another 2 inches in height. A "big" 1 litre one will be going inside a bag hung on the chairs back.  1 litre is enough for ALL DAY!  This little 4 stroke runs on fumes...  It also has a spark arrestor, and runs very cool.
 

 

Now, an engine is not a generator...  But they don't make generators this small, because most generators need to run at 3000 rpm to give the 50 cycles per second required for the UK power supply, or 3600 to give 60 cycles in the USA.  Now small engine do not make any noticeable power at these revs!  And the smaller the engine the more they like to rev... 

But I want 24v DC (no AC so the "frequency" it runs at does not matter to me, so it can rev freely. So now it makes no difference to me that this little engine want to go 7000 rpm all day.  It effectively means it can make as much power as a much "BIGGER" mains type generator, 1hp (this engine) is 740 watts. So allowing for some inefficiency it will give me about 500 watts out at 24volts DC.

The actual generator is a motorcycle 3 phase field coil from a Ducati motorbike. It is new, and was never fitted so going "spare" as such...  It also happens to have the part that goes in the middle with the magnets in it too...  I will need to make a neat case, and mount the rotor on the engine.  Then I will have about 80v AC 3 phase or single phase depending on how it is wound. (Not actually seen this bit yet)


Now I have!  Its not Ducati!  It does not use a centre rotor with magnets... 
Its an indeterminate 3 phase, 450 watt Japanese bike one.  I don't know which exactly.

The output from this (about 80v AC between any two phases) will go to either a stock "pair" of motorcycle regulator/rectifier units with each one feeding a separate 12v battery, (if they are isolated electrically and I think they will be). Shown below...  These two are actually from a Honda VFR800 motorcycle, but each one is capable of charging a Gel type wheelchair battery, as they are 14.4v regulated output.

If you look at the picture you see 3 yellow wires. One for each phase of the generator shown higher up!  That's the power in sorted!   The other green and red 4 wires are just 14.v DC output, and are actually only two wires, connected internally to carry more power while still being flexible.  This goes to a powerchair battery in each case.  The Three phase inputs are electrically isolated from the outputs (I hope!) so they can feed the two regulators at the same time.  The two regulators outputs "should" according to my calculations be "floating" electrically speaking, and can be safely connected to two individual batteries whilst they are still wired in series! We will see.  I visualise smoke!

Then every time I go outdoors I can start that little Honda engine and it charges my batteries at up to 20 Amps!  So as I travel it will be adding energy at a faster rate than I can use it. It will not overcharge though as the regulators are set to 14.4 v on most bikes, so it will not damage sealed gel or AGM batteries.

Still not sure if I should fit the little motor and generator inside the battery box and use half sized batteries to make room. If it will not fit easily (it will be tight!) I may just keep existing batteries and fit the generator under the wheelchairs seat at the front. But then you can see it...

So stay tuned MUCH more to come! 

What I want to know is this...  If I can do this at home as a paraplegic user, why can't they???  Think about the long term battery benefits alone.  Even if you do not need the extra range (I do!!!) then you will not be "deep cycling" your batteries as much or as deeply.  A deep cycle battery that is deep cycled to 80 percent will DIE in 10 months because they give 300 cycles at best like this! I have had 2 very expensive deep cycle batteries every ten months for 4 and a half years.  After this mod, they should last 5 years with the same distance covered.

It is NOT a weight issue, this motor weighs 7lb only. The generator still to be fitted adds another 8lb.  I have already removed MORE than this by removing all the iron brackets, footrests, etc.  And since much smaller & LIGHTER and CHEAPER (deep cycle not required!) batteries could now be used it would not add a lot to the total cost. The motor and bike generator cost me 100 UK Pounds, but I didn't pay for the Bike bits.  They may be a few hundred. On a £5000 chair it is not important. It adds flexibility!

OK then I need to machine stuff bigger than my toy Myford ML7 Lathe can cope with so the generator is on hold until the local college re-opens in a few weeks time! Bugger!!!

Never mind, I can finish the footplate in the manner that the manufacturers should have done in the beginning.

So on to the next page because this one will take an age to download as it is!  Go to part 3 below...

 

Start    (looking at the mess! And sorting it all out starts)

Part 2  (On board four stroke petrol power begins!)

Part 3  (The modified smaller lighter footplate design continued)

 

 

 

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